Salisbury Conservation Commission   Minutes

January 18,  2006

                       

                       

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:  Rick Whaley, Chairman, Iora Alexander,  Kevin Avery,  Michael Greene and David Holscher.

 

 

ABSENT:  Thomas Hughes

 

ALSO PRESENT:  Conservation Agent  Michelle Rowden 

 

 

Rick Whaley  opened the meeting at 7:17  p.m. under the Wetlands Protection Act and the Town of Salisbury Wetlands Protection Bylaws.

 

MINUTES

KA motioned to continue the minutes  from the December 7, 2005 meeting.

 

 

General

Don Levesque, DPW director, addressed the Commission requesting permission for the DPW to cut and clear a path 500’ long and 30’ wide  for access to install a  sampling well and a permanent well at the end of Lena Mae’s Way.  RL stated that the DEP issued approval to a design of the prolonged pumping test.  DL showed pictures of the area. RW asked if Geosphere determined where the aqua spheres exist. RL replied yes. RW asked whom to notify if there are water problems. RL said to contact him. IA asked if there was a problem with Seabrook and if the  proximity of the well would be closer to Seabrook.  RL stated the new well would be 500 feet from the exiting well #5 but not nearer Seabrook.  KA motioned to allow the town to perform this test project. IA seconded. In discussion,  RW asked what would be involved.  RL stated the removal of stumps, the testing, the infrastructure- electrical, etc.,  and gravel.  IA asked when. RL stated November.  The motion passed unanimously.

 

 

 

BUILDING PERMITS

No building permits were presented.

 

 


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PUBLIC HEARINGS

Public Hearings were opened.7:37 p.m.

 

1)  NOI:  George Hughes, 7 McCarthy Way

 

Ron Laffely of Fulcrum Architects and  Brian Knowles of Apple Associates represented the applicant. RL reviewed the existing site, six buildings – five residences and a utility building. They presented graphics. RW asked those interested to move up to see better.  RL stated they decided not to increase the canal. They will cleanup the edge and phragmites. They will install piles without drilling using tapping.  IA asked if there would be a ramp for parking. RL said yes. IA asked if they had looked at Joe Serwatka’s January 17th letter and comments that that some information was inadequate. BK said they responded. IA asked about the professional Engineering stamp. BK said his boss stamped new plans and he presented the revised plans to RW.  IA asked about the detail for slope and grading. BK proposes a trench. IA as asked about snow storage. BK said they will use snow blowers between the units.  IA asked for confirmation that the snow will be cleared by snow blowers. BK and RL said snow blowers. IA asked will the snow be deposited near the marsh. BK and RL said the snow would not be deposited near the marsh.  IA asked if they responded to  JS’s questioning if the grade 5.3 feet was adequate. BN stated that the 3 to 1 slop meets criteria. RW asked if they were at an impasse.  BK stated if JS has issues we can sit down and iron them out with him.  IA asked what have you  provided for  maintenance plan. BN said    they have a provided a maintenance plan.  IA asked what else they could do to satisfy JS concerns. RL stated they could put a small culvert but that it would take planning  board approval.  IA stated that when she reviewed the property she has seen water under the present houses and  roadway. RL said the DEP would like to see a split rail fence at the end. RW said he  would prefer a post and chain. RL asked for permission  to use steel piles  in place of wood. IA said she did not see a problem.  KA  motioned to allow permission for steel piles and the other previous changes discussed for PVC pipe and a granite split rail fence at the end.  IA seconds.  In discussion,  RW stated that the need for a narrative still applies. RW said it would be OK  to move forward if  JS is comfortable and all the issues from his letter are addressed to  JS’ satisfaction. The motion  was unanimously approved

 

2) NOI:  Northpointe Builders LLC, Off Seabrook Rd.

           

Brian Knowles of Apple Associates represented the applicant. BK provided new plans to the Commission and stated that the plan is reduced from 58 to 48 units, increasing the set backs and increasing the no-cut area. RW asked for confirmation that the units are not within 25 feet of the wetland.  BK stated most units have treatment, most flow-back providing the required DEP treatment. RW asked if they are building detention ponds with pipes/holes.  RW asked  how big the holes are. BK said 1 inch to   inches.  IA asked who is responsible for the maintenance. BK stated condo association. RW asked if there were concrete pipes.  RW asked where else around here was this process used. He asked have you seen this done in this area. BK said this is done in Boxford. KA asked if this is practical stormwater management.  KA asked Chris Perkins of Weston and Sampson, who has been providing peer review, is this your recommendation. Is this practical? CP said it is on the cusp of not meeting guidelines. If anything gets into the basin then this  will not work. KA asked if this was better than the original plan. Is the issue maintenance? CP said he did not know how this will  work over time. KA asked if he was talking about blockage from outside. BK said this has been designed for a 100 year storm. KA asked if CP has maintenance concerns.  CP said it has to be able to handle a two year storm. DH asked if the design has the capability  to simulate surface areas and what is the best method. CP said the ideal insurance is that nothing gets in outlet. That if there is any change to basins then the model is off.


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2) NOI:  Northpointe Builders LLC, Seabrook continued

 

KA voiced his concern that we are going around and around on this project. They have made changes and want a resolution. He asked CP what the other issues are.  CP said drainage, stormwater management, the responsibility of maintenance and the DEP to weigh in.   RW stated that this is a 40B. They have structures closer to the wetlands than other projects. This may not be approved in other towns from what he has heard form wetlands scientists. IA stated that Mary Rimmer has concerns that this project may damage the wetlands.  KA stated that there is a current that this project should not go through. RW, said no, that  there are other issues and asked what the usage is.   Are there 48 units on seventeen acres of wetlands?  KA stated it should not take this long. CP said his role is to review and make sure it meets DEP guidelines. Iteration are not our control. RW reviewed concerns from Mary Rimmer’s letter on this project  such as concern over the habitat and migration, and the 10 food no-cut concern in the second paragraph of  her letter.  He asked if they were responding to MR’s concerns.  BK said they have maintenance on their plans. KA asked about the responsibility of maintenance and asked  who will ensure that there is no more encroachment onto the wetlands. BK said it is the responsibility of the condo association.  IA asked if there will be garages. BK said no garages and no pools and that this will be in the condo rules.  RW asked  if they had responded to Mary Rimmer’s concern that the limit of work be firmly established on plans. BK said yes. RW asked about the four points at the end of  paragraph one of MR’s letter and asked if the responses to these concerns will be made on the narrative. BK said yes. RW asked if they will follow her suggestion to change the flow by 90%. BK said yes.  RW asked CP if he saw any unresolved issues that we need to address.  CP replied that he has provided comments and that Mary Rimmer has concerns for more detail and sequencing. RW voiced a concern over the dip in the driveway and that during a 2 or 5 year storm that they will be going through water to get out of their driveway. BK said the culvert too deep.  KA motioned to approve this project with the caveat that all issues discussed here this evening will be set forth in the Order of Conditions and that the two reviewing consultants (Mary and Chris) are satisfied according to their final comment letters. IA seconded.  Iora Alexander,  Kevin Avery,  Michael Greene and David Holscher voted and approved this motion. RW opposed.

     

 

3) NOI:  Thomas O’Hara, 41 Old County Rd.

 

Jim Babbin from Millennium Engineering appeared with owners Tom O’Hara and Elizabeth O’Hara. RW said to  consider this as a first hearing. JB reviewed the plans showing two lots and  one dwelling on each of the two lots.  Each house would be on pilings. RW asked about the concrete floor?  They will take out the phragmites and replace and reseed to replicate wetlands. IA voiced a concern over closeness to wetlands and asked if they were out of the no-build zone. JB said they were between the 25 and 40 feet zone. RW asked when the lots were created. TH said 2003. RW said the commission is holding everyone to the 40 foot bylaw.  He explained that we are in litigation over this issue.  IA said the DEP has to weigh in. JB said Mike Abel reviewed the plans. RW explained the history that new lots and new sub-divisions  have to respect the 40 feet no build zone and the 25 foot no disturb zone by laws. It would be different if these were existing lots. DH said he had comments from TH via e-mail today. RW read that TH made a site visit and does not recommend giving in on the setback rules for this project. KA stated that these owners gave sixty-six acres away to the town. IA said we are in a difficult position but does not see how we can justify this project.  KA said that if we stick to our guns  on the 40 foot no build zone then these folks may not build. DH asked if there was any other place to build on the property.  TH said they moved the house as parcel A has phragmites. RW asked if parcel A was buildable. JB said no due to the salt marsh. RW mentioned an alternative to bring the proposal to one house. KA said it may still be in the 40 foot zone. RW asked if they are willing to wait while he  talks to town counsel on this issue. The applicants will wait.  KA motioned to continue this to the February 1, 2006 meeting at 7:15 PM. DH seconds. The motion was unanimously approved


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4) NOI: Robert Jacobs, 2 Murray Street

Applicant requested to continue to the next meeting.

KA motioned to continue this to the February 1, 2006 meeting at 7:15 p.m.  DH seconds.

Motion was unanimously approved. 

 

9) NOI:  Joan Stevens, 14A-C Friedenfels Rd.

Applicant requested to continue to the next meeting.

KA motioned to take out of order and continue to the February 1, 2006 meeting at 7:15 p.m.  DH seconds.  Motion was unanimously approved.

 

10) Amended NOI:  Kathy Orben, 12 Ferry Lots Ln

Applicant requested to continue to the next mtg.

KA motioned to take out of order and continue to the February 1, 2006 meeting at 7:15PM.  DH seconds.  Motion was unanimously approved.

 

 

   NOI:  28 Rabbit Road Continued

 

DH  motioned to place on Agenda, take out of order, and continue to the February 1, 2006 meeting at 7:15 p.m.  IA seconds.  Motion was unanimously approved.

 

 

 

5) NOI: Michael O’Neill, 64 North End Blvd.  65-0745

 

Carol Ann and Michael O’Neil reviewed the revised plans with the Commission. IA noticed they pointed out the posts. KA said that seeing how the applicants made revisions to the plans as requested he moved to accept the plans as presented. IA seconds. The motion  was unanimously approved. In response to applicant’s questions, KA advised the applicants that they have to wait for the ten day appeal period. That subsequent to the appeal period, the Order of Conditions will be mailed to them. It is their responsibility to have the OoC recorded at court and come back with the receipt. It is up to them to obtain the building permit and then come back.

 

6) ANRAD:  Cardillo Development 163 Elm St

 

Kevin Avery abstains.  Scott from Apple Associates represented the applicant. RW asked if he filed with Fish and Wildlife? IA stated project review will be required by the Natural Heritage and Endangered Species group.   RW asked if a filing with the Fish and Wildlife necessary for ConCom to approve.  MR , Conservation Agent, said no. DH motioned to approve the project subject that  they do not have to file with Fish and Wildlife. MG seconds. RW, IA, MG and DH vote to approve the motion.  

 

7) NOI:  Chris Auto Body, 100 Elm St

      Applicant requested a continuance to next mtg.        

DH motioned to continue this to the February 1, 2006 meeting at 7:15PM.  IA seconds.

Motion was unanimously approved.


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8) NOI:  Toler LLC, 208 Elm Street

No discussion as this was inadvertently placed on Agenda. This will be on the February 1, 2006 Agenda.

 

11) NOI:  Dianne Fasoli, 401 N. End Blvd

 

Sean  C. from Oak Engineers represented the applicant.  Sean stated that this project is an addition to a single family home in the Beach resource area. He is proposing a frost wall foundation. RW asked on a Barrier Beach. Sean said yes. RW advised that usually new construction must be on pilings. He asked if pilings will be a problem. Sean stated that homeowner would prefer no pilings. RW asked if the homeowner saw the DEP problems. KA advised that the addition must be on pilings. KA asked is the old house was on slab. Sean said a dirt cellar raised in 1993. Sean said that pilings are a burden to homeowner. IA asked if the 50% rule applied. KA responded that rule was for new structures. RW stated Bylaw states if there is an addition on Barrier beach then it must be on pilings. Sean asked that this be continued to revise plans to show pilings. KA advised that the committee will be looking for pile locations. KA motioned to continue this to the February 1, 2006 meeting at 7:15PM.  DH seconds.  Motion was unanimously approved.

 

12) NOI:  Ron Poulin, 105 Bridge Rd

Scott from Apple Associates appeared with Ron Poulin.  Scott presented an overview of the project including pictures. IA saw a house in the pictures and asked if the house was being removed. Scott said no. RW asked how long have you owned the property and if he was aware that the Commission issued an Enforcement Order on that property.  RW advised that some Con Com members saw fill being placed and asked where do wetlands really begin? Where is the fill and where the wetlands would be if the fill was not there. MR, Conservation Agent,  advised that they need to clear up the Enforcement Order. RW asked what part was recently filled. Scott stated that a shed was knocked down and asked if that was the area. KA and IA asked how one enters the property.  MR said they filled much of the property.  KA showed them where delineation was on the plans. RW said that Lisa Pearson is knowledgeable about this issue. KA said that considering there is outstanding Enforcement Order he moved to continue this to the February 1, 2006 meeting to allow the gentlemen to perform soil borings.  IA seconds.   During discussion of the motion, RW said if they could not get the borings done in this timeframe to let the Commission know. IA stated that delineation for the wetlands needs to be established. MR advised that the DEP has concerns about filling and not  permitting filling without compensation. Motion was unanimously approved.

 

 

13) NOI:  Salvatore Ferrandi, 154-156 Bridge Rd. 

Michael Greene abstains. Scott from Apple Associates represents the applicant. MR states that there is no comment from the DEP.  Scott states that the proposed plan is for a three story industrial building. The existing buildings are within the 40 feet of the no building zone. There is a swale on the south westerly side for water quality. RW asked what he meant water quality. KA asked what will you do with the roof run-off and the plans should show the roof run-off.  KA asked what is going to be done with the parking lot drainage. IA asked where the parking is. Scott said in front. RW says that the NOI says industrial and if so Scott must advise the Commission of the industrial use. Scott said it should be commercial.  RW asked if there would be concrete floors.


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13) NOI:  Salvatore Ferrandi, 154-156 Bridge Rd. (continued)

KA said the drawings are very incomplete. Tim Lamprey, an abutter and Zoning Board member, asked several questions. Will the existing building stay and Scott said they will come down. TL asked about the percentage of lot coverage and asked if this will be more than 25% square footage. Scott answered 11,000 sf.  Tim questioned if this project needs to come before the Zoning Board and the Building Inspector. TL asked if the roof was flat, and will water go into the town creek/wetland. He asked how this building will affect neighbors up the street. KA stated that an engineer needs to be involved with the plans and that what was before the board was only a sketch.  Bernie Case, an abutter advised the ConCom of several issues. He has replicated for wetlands. He advised the state  that a portion of Bridge Rd. collapsed  (sink hole) and the state filled the hole with a coal patch.  BC also advised the ConCom that the culvert under Rt. 1 is not running out and should be fixed. KA motioned to continue this to the February 1, 2006 meeting at 7:15PM.  DH seconds.  KA, RW, IA, and DH approve the motion.

 

 

 OLD BUSINESS

1)  Request for CoC, Pearson 148 Lafayette Rd

MR, Conservation Agent,  advises the commission that the applicant has refused to post the bond. KA motions to deny the request for a CoC.  IA seconds. Motion was unanimously approved.

 

2) Request for CoC, Gorman Realty 591-595 N.End Blvd

RW will do a site visit when he has the plans.

 

3)   Request for CoC, 133, 135 & 137 Beach Rd.

No appearance. This will stay on the agenda.

 

4) CoC issues, 13 CCC Rd. Lynn McGoff

Lynn McGoff appeared before the Commission. LMcG stated that the decks are on the front side of her house. RW advised LMcG of Mary Rimmer’s concerns regarding the wetland replication area as stated in Mary’s letter. RW said that MaryR stated a concern over location. Lynn presented pictures to the Commission.  Board members asked where the replication area is on the pictures. RW and KA said that  perhaps MaryR has suggestions for the replication. KA asked the Agent to talk with MaryR for suggestions.  RW advised LMcG  to talk to MR about posting bond for the work to be done.   KA motioned to continue this to the February 1, 2006 meeting at 7:15PM.  DH seconds.  Motion was unanimously approved.

 

 

NEW BUSINESS

1) Release of OoC, 3 6th Street, Arthur Broadhurst

Jim Babbin from Millennium Engineering  represented the applicant. JB advised the ConCom that Mr. Able has concerns regarding erosion/rocks. There was a  DEP site visit where the DEP requested a soft engineering solution (no rocks).  The soft engineering solution is a coconut fiber product. A sample of this product was provided to the Committee for review. This material is guaranteed for two years. RW asked about installation. JB provided new plans. MR asked if Mike Abell (DEP) has the plans. JB asking the NOI to reference the new set of plans and  release the Order of Conditions referencing the new plans revised 12/30/05. RW motioned to release OoC with two revised plan pages dated 12/30/05. DH seconds.  Motion was unanimously approved.


 

 

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2) Request for CoC, 13 Palis Dr., Mark Kaufer and Silke Braun

Jim Babbin from Millennium Engineering represented the applicant.  JB advised the ConCom that this property was sold and that the outstanding CoC was not caught.  He stated that the property is in compliance with the plans except for the retaining wall. JB stated that a  deck was constructed by a prior owner.  MR, Conservation Agent,  advised that the Order of conditions has expired and that it doesn’t appear to require a new filing, but she will have to double check the rules since the work has already been completed. KA asked MR if there was any other alternatives. IA asked MR to check this out with Lisa Pearson.

 

3) Review of wetland rules and regs

-IA asked to set up a time to discuss the wetland rules and regulations.

 

-Hot top replacement - RW advised  that if the Attorney General approves the Town Meeting change on hot top replacement then the Town Meeting change becomes the new regulation. However, if you are going to replace hot top you will still need to file an Abbreviated Notice of  Intent (ABNOI) or a Request for Determination of Applicability (RDA).

 

 

 

ENFORCEMENT ORDERS:

There were none present to discuss the Enforcement orders.

 

 

SITE INSPECTION REPORTS:         

No site inspection reports were presented.


 

Executive Session

IA moved to allow RW to sign the DECM settlement. DH seconds. Motion was unanimously approved.

 

Adjournment

RW  motions to adjourn. IA  seconds. Motion was unanimously approved.

The meeting adjourns at  11:15 p.m.

 

 

 

 

Approved: April 5, 2006